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June 1, 2012

Organic Farming

Filed under: Odds 'n ends, Permaculture — totallygroovygirlfriday @ 6:17 am

Found this over at Quick breakdown of commercial-scale organic farming. groovygirl thought the interesting part was the 8% return on investment vs. the normal 4% return in main stream agriculture/ranching.

Yes, it’s organic and therefore a higher retail price, but that is double the ROI even with the land resting (vacant) for a period of time. gg would love to see the business plan to confirm the numbers. I will search around the web. (I think this is the company the post is referring to. Found land investment ROI (around 12%), but not farming. Their blog is very interesting.)

Family farmers today would kill to be in a co-op with an 8% return, and the certified-organic land already had the infrastructure required from irrigation to paddock fencing!

Running crops, cattle, sheep, chicken, and pigs alternately on the same land over a period of 7-10 years is the local model. It is also the model of millions of farmers since the first wheat seed was planted. Could it be that the ancient farming methods are not only organic, but a monetarily better investment than modern agriculture/ranching with all the science, derivatives, and drugs?

Side musing: it is possible to run with this idea for orchards (with pigs and chickens on bug and fertilizing patrol) and with fish tanks and non-root veges/greens using a concept called aquaponics. In tropical areas/lake areas, aquaponic-like system can be done outside on large-scale lakes such as the floating gardens of Mexico.



  1. i love the organic farm posts

    Comment by madmax — June 1, 2012 @ 11:16 am

  2. Madmax,

    Thanks. I know it is off topic, but gg’s second passion is growing healthy food.


    Comment by totallygroovygirlfriday — June 1, 2012 @ 11:21 am

  3. Organic gardening and eating fresh food is one of the biggest trends in the food industry. Consumers are leaving the big box stores for all of their food purchases and are going back to roadside stands for their fruits, veggies and honey. Personally, I am looking at investing in fruit bearing trees and bushes. I have a small yard, but it’s big enough to support what we could probably eat in a year. Thanks for posting it gg!

    Comment by MikePhila — June 1, 2012 @ 1:03 pm

  4. hmmm well not in the cities — in the cities they want the cheapest stuff that someone will vouch for ( lie about ) // proof (( go to mall ))
    One of america’s great strengths is the way we have made food cheaper — so the masses can keep spending
    Don’t believe me 🙂 – go to wholefoods and ask people what is organic in the store // 9 out of 10 will say it is all organic
    Reality — nothing is organic unless specifically marked // all the bread is gmo // the smoothy bar (not) // salad bar (not)
    Food margins suck so bad that wholefoods would rather sell clothing lol

    The reality is that the usa is on drugs // anti-depressents /// meth ( alot) // bath salts (eat your neighbor) // alcohol and regular dope

    When the govt doesn’t give them a check they are going to freeeek

    Farming is hard — simple as that // anyone that can grow and store food is smart

    If you are going to grow food and you are good at it — well you might not want to brag about it cuss when and if food runs a little short // people will think of you 🙂

    Comment by madmax — June 2, 2012 @ 12:15 am

  5. Madmax,

    You make a good point about whole foods. Sometimes even the farmer’s market isn’t organic even if they say so. It is best the develop relationships with local farmers, visit their farms, learn a little. If you don’t understand, they are usually happy to expand what is organic and not.


    Comment by totallygroovygirlfriday — June 2, 2012 @ 8:11 am

  6. Building relationships in this world of “social networking” where we all have 1,000 friends, who remember our birthday because some vague service we forgot to cancel years ago and still sends reminders via email, is important.

    One of the local farms here in Ventura, CA. has a wide variety of produce but yesterday I ventured out there to gather some “organic” produce and learned that only 25% (if that) was actually grown organically.

    What irritates me the most is how developers in the area are using land to build more speculative retail shopping centers and office buildings when block after block, retail centers and office buildings sit vacant collecting dust. What a waste of land and resources. Drives me nuts!!

    Comment by soleirolia — June 2, 2012 @ 2:27 pm

  7. Agreed.


    Comment by totallygroovygirlfriday — June 2, 2012 @ 9:36 pm

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