muses of the moment

November 17, 2012


Filed under: Odds 'n ends — totallygroovygirlfriday @ 1:27 am

……dishwashers and washing machines.

Click here for an interesting story about the new regulations for dishwashers (2013) and washing machines (2015). gg sees a huge secondary market for old toilets, dishwashers, washing machines, and probably dryers, too.

OK, groovygirl has actually been researching this issue as she is planning on building a self-sufficient, energy-efficient home at some point in the future with a rainwater catchment system where water will be sacred. Being from a family that never throws anything away and includes people who can make anything last forever, she has been able to compare old cars to new, old dishwashers to new, and old washing machines to new. And when she says old, she means 1950’s.

When cars started being “fuel-efficient”, they got really expensive to fix and they really only got you a few more miles to the gallon and it costs 3 times more. The hybrid cars of today are a similar situation.

Washers, same thing. You can save water and energy by reading the instructions and choosing the appropriate cycle for your needs. Really old models you can jimmy with the water level, or just stop the water fill cycle before it is finished and move to the start cycle. Yes, that’s how easy it is to save water.

I bet you will not be able to sanitize cloth diapers (huge money and landfill saver) in this new washer. Hard to do with current models as it is. Just means that you will be washing tough loads twice, thus NOT saving energy and water. Brilliant!

And you know what else we had in the “olden days”, a grey water tub. You could save rinse water for the next wash cycle. Amazing. It required a large plastic sink-tub and some plastic flexible pipe. Probably $50-$75 tops today and you can save water from every rinse cycle. That’s half your laundry water usage forever for $50 bucks!

But you know what, the new machines make setting up that reuse system to require an engineering degree, unless the washer is designed for it. But an old 1960’s Maytag, super easy.

groovygirl is a little confused as to why these options can not be “mandatory” rather than a machine that can’t clean clothes. Oh, I know why, because it would not cause everyone to buy a more expensive washing machine.

I see a washing machine bubble coming in the future. That is probably the trigger that will put us over the edge in 2015 🙂

Dishwashing machines are a little harder. You just need a lot of hot water flying around at high speeds to wash dishes. We used to hand rinse dishes in the sink and put it on a shorter cycle to save money in the 70’s. GG still does today. We also used to lower the thermostats and put on more clothes, too. May I mention attic fans and window screens for summer?

Low flow toilets: do not get me started. The only low flow toilets that actually work, and work well, are from Australia (the two-option flush type) and are really expensive. (If you can afford, get one.) Anything in the US requires constant plunging. You might as well have an outhouse for as much contact you have with human waste with these “cheap” low-flow toilets. Waste of money, you just end up flushing 2-3 times to get everything down to the sewer. Totally stupid.

Dryers are one of the worst energy hogs of the household, they aren’t even mentioned (maybe another regulation coming?). One word: clothesline (outside in warm weather or bathroom/basement/kitchen/laundry room in winter). Groovygirl has been using one for years. Clothes last longer too. Sometimes, I air fluff the sheets and towels when company is coming.

So, to sum up, groovygirl is all for saving energy and water, but there are other ways to do it besides creating machines that can’t do what they are supposed to do. Wait until technology actually works before you mandate something and give a person an option or a little education about saving water/energy or all of the above.

Hoard your dishwashing and washing machines, they may fetch a pretty penny in the near future.

Discuss among yourselves.


1 Comment »

  1. Are we too lazy to make our own soap, lather in a bucket of water and hang them out on a line, in the sun, to dry?

    (Maybe that’s a rhetorical question?)

    Comment by soleirolia — November 17, 2012 @ 2:00 am

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